Top consultant slams health and safety registration

Top petrochemicals Sheq consultant Jeremy Rundle slams the “stupidity” of the DOL’s plan to enforce health and safety registration in 2015.

Rundle writes on his blog; The proposed mandatory SACPCMP (The South African Council for Project and Construction Management Professions) has arguably become one of the most hotly debated topics in the Sheq industry in South Africa.

With so many people in the line of fire on this one, it’s no wonder this has garnered as much attention as it has. Not only does this hold possible devastating long term effects on those who perform their daily tasks of keeping workers safe, the legislation in its current form is purely and simple idiotic.

It does not even start looking at the core of the issues facing the SHEQ industry or profession in South Africa; education.

The current situation in South Africa where SHEQ /SHE /HSE (whichever abbreviation floats your boat) is concerned is laughable to say the very least. There’s a multitude of ‘colleges’ who profess to being the be-all and end-all of safety education, yet there are core functions of the job which are not included in their courses.

When looking at the curriculum of the various ‘colleges’ you will start to realise how much of a problem South Africa is really facing in SHEQ education. None of the courses follow as set national standard!

The body who’s supposed to be setting this standard South African Qualifications Authority (SAQA) and Health and Welfare Sector Education and Training Authority (HWSETA) is a shambles and completely lack the understand and /or the will power to make the changes needed to set a national standard in SHEQ training in South Africa.

Due to this complete and utter lack and useless nature of the statutory bodies to effect changes, a rise in |”professional bodies” are seen, who masquerade as the “messiahs of health and safety” in South Africa.

Each one of these somehow professing to have the best interest of their members at heart and “dedicated” to improving the profession as a whole. What a load of utter hogwash!

When you start looking a little deeper into these “professional bodies”, the SA-IOSH’s, IoSM’s and wherever the hell else there might be, you start realising that the people who founded these “noble” institutions are all somehow connected.

They’ve either assisted in founding one, then presumably quit because of some personal, known only to the almighty reason, and promptly started a similar venture. Makes sense doesn’t it? Yeah, it’s about as clear as mud to those who have not done much digging and research into the situation.

Granted, one of these “noble institutions” has a founding member who also serves on the “advisory committee to the minister of labour” (ACOHS) and therefore has access to the ear of the minister.

Does this make it better? Sadly not, instead of advocating for the rights and future of the profession he’s supposed to represent, he’s advocating a law which will see thousands of SHEQ officers without a job! Why? Well that answer completely eludes me personally.

The main problem in the proposed mandatory registration lies not only in the fact that the process wasn’t thought through properly, but also in the cost involved. Some SHEQ practitioners are expected to fork out R15 000 to have their experience evaluated by the SACPCMP.

No-one seems to care that the average basic salary of a SHEQ Officer is R8000.

Then there’s the Continued Professional Development (CPD) system. Most of the “professional boards” has some or other CPD system in place. Most of which means “come have a braai (BBQ for foreign readers) and few drinks and we’ll give you a set amount of points.

Yup, that’s South Africa’s idea of continual professional development. There are no actual short courses of substance involved, it’s merely a tea party which gives you points towards remaining registered with said “professional board”.

Oh what fun it is to “study” and continually develop yourself in South Africa!

What boggles the mind though remains the fact that the push by the Department of Labour (DoL) to force SHEQ practitioners to register with SACPCMP has come under great criticism with many a practitioner openly condemning the process and procedures, yet no-one seems to listen or care for their concerns.

The SACPCMP was established as the registration authority for the construction industry to “protect the public”. Well I am not exactly sure when’s the last time you’ve seen Joe Public taking a gentle afternoon stroll through a construction site admiring the bricks and mortar which will eventually become a building?

Other than “allowing you to be employed in the industry” there’s no advantage to the practitioner to being registered with SACPCMP, unless of course you see being sued by said body for wrong doing as an advantage.

The knock-on effect of this hasn’t even been contemplated, should this go ahead, SHEQ practitioners in South Africa will have to take out professional indemnity Insurance, which will be used for what? I don’t know, maybe a worker who did something which caused bodily harm to himself and decides it’s the SHEQ officer’s fault?

If this post doesn’t make much sense and creates more questions and actual answers, that’s exactly when the SHEQ industry registration and “professional bodies” in South Africa is like at the moment.

It’s confusing, has more questions than answer and just plain idiotic! I for one will not register with SACPCMP and will join the fight of SARSU, NIOCCSA, and to stop this stupidity in its tracks. I hope you will join us in this?

To put a stop to health and safety registration schemes, and to save a few thousand jobs in the process, sign the e-petition at this link:

• Jeremy Rundle (BTech Safety Management (RSA); Diploma in Workers Health and Safety (Aus); MSc Risk and Safety Management (UK)), is a QHSE manager in the oil and gas industry, currently in West Africa, and registered as a Professional Member with SA IOSH (OSHProf). He is based in Durban.
Rundle founded the Safety And Related Services Union (SARSU) with Monique Motloung and Ntuthuko Dumakude (see a separate post on He writes on in his personal capacity.

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37 thoughts on “Top consultant slams health and safety registration

  1. Would not have said it better myself. Probably could not have either.
    Scrap the Crap!
    I signed!!!!!

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    1. The registration has to be put on hold given the nature of our education system in South Africa. Why should you pay such amount for registration.? Money making scheme. The DOL as a government department must deal with the issue of registration and credentials of SHEQ officers as it does with AIA’s. The DOL must not hand over to the poeple who have financial interest that defeat the mandate of the government of the day.
      Well articulated comment.

  3. The response from the HSE fraternity clearly indicates how unacceptable this envisaged registration is in general and thereby cannot be imposed on the practitioners. the department of labour should reconsider the stance and if not practitioners have the public protector and the constitutional court to test it if necessary. So it (DoL) must spare itseslf long court processes and abandon the matter.

  4. It is really stupid. Well said. I hope all others are aware and eager to join, coz i did

  5. well said and I agree fully. After 40 years expierience in the industry I can only see someone wants to make money.

  6. As soon as south Africa has any standard which will go from border to border without any additional and subtraction between this two points by means of either some companies or municipalities we will never have a strict role on this. Also as usual, there are ministers going to oversee for a holiday called fact finding mission and see how its works in other countries. Hope you have enjoyed your holiday and I know you have come back with nothing because you first need an education for doing this type of work. Its not called education of practise and further educational self training which you can not get from collage or any other institutions, remember you are not visiting a 4th wold country.
    Qualification and Registration means nothing, you have in south Africa (I am involved in 8 various industries and companies of my own) in some of the industries around 10 000 so called registered professionals which have no idea as what they do and only 6 qualified / competent people. Make you think, but that’s Africa where you get arrogant, stupidity and incompetence in one package. I would say first have the general education in place and then go from there. Don’t start a building on the roof it will collapse, have a strong solid foundation first.
    If the workers are not capable to do safe work you will never get it right. Also remember the south African labour law and unions etc. are your biggest enemy on this and you have to keep them out.

  7. I think some how I dissagree with the column… HSE must be proffesionalised like other entities (ECSA, GCC etc). I for one am sure that many people go to high institutes to study this field however the corporate environment still does not take it as serious as other fields like Engineering, Commercial fields as such you find that those that did safety are less paid however holding high level of risks. We need to give this a chance to see where will this lead before garnishing at the DOL. Some Safety Officers just do 3 short courses for a period of 3 months and once completed they are now called safety officer in a construction industry without a knowledge of the industry holding a highly critical role. So if you put an unskilled individual on a highly critical role you are bound to get bad results. There’s more i would like to say but will end here. But lets not crush this idea without seeing the good results this might have.

    1. With all due respect, registration does not mean professionalism. Professionalism is a combination of knowledge, training, experience and ethics.
      Paying somebody to be a number on a list which isn’t industry [practice] specific, doesn’t meet the objective. The control doesn’t meet the risk.
      I’m all for professionalism, but it begins with planning and implementation (education), before checking (reviewing), and acting.
      This is still a Tongaat Mall collapse type of knee-jerk reaction.

      1. I agree with Vincent. The problem lies with the education system. SA has allowed short courses like the ones Katiso is referring to, to become the “norm”. Now they believe that these people once registered will “know more” after 5 years of attending CPD workshops.
        I have presented many CPD accredited workshops myself, and still find that the underpinning knowledge to understand the concepts and terms presented at these workshops, are few and far between. And that is not taught in a three-day NQF approved course that is accepted for registration.
        I presented a workshop on the new Construction Regulations Amendment, and some attendees did not even know the 2003 regs properly.
        About the statment; “So if you put an unskilled individual on a highly critical role you are bound to get bad results?”; And if that person is registered? Because the same courses you refer to is “accepted” by the SACPCMP as sufficient for CHSO registration.
        There is no need to register Safety Officers at this level. They are employed to do a job, and that is it. Once they advance to the level of consultant, via proper education, then I am all for the registration at Agent level.
        Once the education is sorted, this process can be revisited.

  8. Same applies with me Katiso, I think to some extent I disagree with you.
    History has taught us that we need to standby in what we believe.
    You must recall that there’s financial implications in something you suggest should be given a chance.
    Don’t be offended.

  9. QAbout; “We need to give this a chance to see where will this lead before garnishing at the DOL.”?
    With all due respect, Katiso, at whose expense do you want to do this? MINE?
    HELL NO!!! I tell you what… send me R15 000 and I will gladly register.

    1. Is you only a Safety Officers Peter? I thought you was a high flying director.

      1. Ai ai Koos. One does not have to be a Safety Officers to see the madness, the corruption, the increased business overheads, the stupidity, the effect on employment, the effect on the credibility of the sinisters of ministers, the negative impact on the profession, the decline in standards of ethics, the increase in unlawful operators, the increase in workplace fatalities due to “registration = competent” religions and all the other crap we need to scrap, to disagree with the entire process.

        Want me to summarise the sentence for you Koos?

  10. Totally agree with the article…..Well said. This Registration Process has not been thought through at all!!!!!


  12. Ronald, that is part of what NIOCCSA is proposing! The DOL could register us, at R75 application fee. They do the same for the electrical contractors, which previously was done by the ECB. Why had that gone belly up???? History repeats itself.

  13. People must for once and all question the credibility of the DoL. Can somebody please publish an article outlining who these clowns are? Who is the person in charge of workplace (occupational) health and safety? Not all the other stuffs……just health and safety. Ok….then what are their qualifications, skills and experience to fulfil that role? Who is heading up the production of regulations? What are their qualifications, skills and experience to fulfil that role? What is the management structure? What are their qualifications, skills and experience to fulfil that role? The basic inspectors – what are their qualifications, skills and experience to fulfil that role?

    Where is the DoL strategy for managing health and safety in South Africa? Is it easy to find? How are they implementing? What is the national accident record? Have improvements been made in the last five years? ten year? twenty years?

    ==== Editor replies; These and other questions are already answered in various posts. Use the Search button, or Google for DOL /annual report /stats /strategy /inspections /compensation /ICT contracts /parliament /etc.

    About the SACPCMP, gladdened storm troopers of the DOL via Public Works, the DPW filled the SA Council for Project and Construction Management Professions (SACPCMP) with its own officials and state contractors.

    The current nine SACPCMP council members were appointed by the minister of the Department of Public Works (DPW) to serve from April 2014 to April 2018.

    Four of the nine have direct DPW procurement and public-private partnership links (see details of the current investigation against the DPW below), and another four have state entities as clients. The nine members are;

    Eric Manchidi (DPW director of Asset Procurement and Operating Partnership Systems (APOPS), a public private partnership programme. Procurement Dynamics /PD Consulting founder and CEO. Formerly Grinaker, Blue Circle Cement, McDonalds SA. BSc Building, MSc Building. SACPCMP president).

    Isaac Nkosi (owner of I.N. and Associates Project Managers. Formerly SIP Project Managers; Diagonal Projects Africa; MIO-Liviero. Clients included IDT, Bohlabela Municipality, DOT, Tshwane. MSc Proj Man, BSc Constr Man, Dip Civ Eng (Malawi). Member of ACPM, CBE. SACPCMP assessor and vice-president).

    Itumeleng Molosi (DPW director. Former LTA bursary, Nat Cert Eng Unisa, Nat Higher Dip Building Survey DIT; LTA, M&R for N3 Toll Concessionaires, Engen stations).

    Makgati Phaladi (DPW Correctional Services construction manager; BTech Archit, MTech Constr Man).

    Bonke Simelane (DPW expenditure manager, now consultant on the Programme for Accelerated Capital Expenditure, PACE. Former Treasury inter-government relations; school infrastructure; M&R bursary; Abcon; ACSA, DEC director, Johannesburg Development Agency, Passenger Rail Agency, 2010 FIFA World Cup stations; Focus Project Management director; Tshwane Neighbourhood Development Partnership grant manager; Liberty Properties; NMC Construction procurement; ACPM vice-president; Western Cape CIOB, SABTACO, SAIBPP; Life Choices education NGO board. Nat Dip Building, BTech Constr Man).

    Rowan Crowie (Crowie Holdings chairman and CEO, formerly Reserve Bank, affirmative procurement, Murray & Roberts).

    Doug Michell (Master Builders North OHS, and Saqa learnerships. Formerly DOL Advisory Council for OHS. Mossgas, Lethabo power station, MQA QCTO curriculum standard DQP). His SACPCMP portfolio is registration of construction OHS practitioners.

    Claire Deacon (owner of OCCUMED /Claire Deacon Associates /CREATE, with Prof John Smallwood, clients include EC Roads and Public Works. Director of ACHASM, BEP councillor, IOSH UK, SAIOSH, CIOB, Ergon Soc, Nursing Council, SASOHN. Dip Nursing, BTech OH, BSc Med Hons Biomedical Eng, Masters Community Nursing MCur. SACPCMP examiner).

    Tseliso Makhetha (quantity survey services to Limpopo Education, governance services to CIDB. Formerly Transnet Protekon, Essellen Park. Quantity Surveying via UK institutes, PG Cert Constr Adjudication, postgrad Constr Man Univ Bath. Business Administrator, Project Manager, Quantity Surveyor, SA and UK. Mentor for dti’sKhulaThuso scheme for emerging contractors).

    Department of Public Works investigated

    SA president Jacob Zuma had promulgated a special investigation into the Department of Public Works (DPW) in late August last year. The scope includes rent scams involving a number of departments, and poor performance of the DPW and its entities.

    The Government Gazette of August 2014orders investigation, inter alia, of;
    “(a) serious maladministration in connection with the affairs of the Department [DPW];
    (b) improper or unlawful conduct by employees of the Department [DPW];
    (c) unlawful appropriation or expenditure of public money or property;
    (d) unlawful, irregular or unapproved acquisitive act, transaction, measure or practice having a bearing upon state property;
    (e) intentional or negligent loss of public money or damage to public property;
    (f) offence referred to in Part 1 to 4, or section 17, 20 or 21 (in so far as it relates to the aforementioned offences) of Chapter 2 of the Prevention and Combating of Corrupt Activities Act, 2004 (Act No. 12 of 2004), and which offences were committed in connection with the affairs of the Department; or
    (g) unlawful or improper conduct by any person, which has caused or may cause serious harm to the interests of the public or any category thereof… including the recovery of any losses suffered by the Department…”

    The investigation follows a series of DPW investigations into other departments. Perhaps they stepped on sensitive affirmative toes such as Hlaudi at the SABC.

    The DOL and DPW seem competent to inspect (mainly employment equity), and to investigate (but perhaps not to report as much), and to do turnaround (or rather budget turnover and staff turnover), and to accelerate expenditure (on their favourite ITC and construction contractors). The Nkandla fire pool is just a drop in a leaking bucket full of investigation loopholes.

    1. Ok so one Council member has no education? Where did he purchase his membership? I want one too…..
      IF the COUNCIL Members are not qualified to ASSESS (Note professor —>) “HEALTH” and safety officers, how can they turn people down.
      DOUG MICHELL Where is your impressive CV?????
      I will take you to court if you dare decline my application. Show me yours and I will show you mine!!!

      On second thought… nevermind. I will not pay you a cent to see my CV, and you can take your professional registration and hide it where only the medical profession will find it.
      Scrap the crap!
      Slam the Scam!

      Jeremy, I suggest you start mobilising the UNION for a nice toi-toi and a CPD Braai.
      Come Play Darts and win Bulls hit! Aye!
      “Amatyebi Sizwe” Viva!! Vauxhall Viva!!!

  14. DoL se hol is vol van scrap die crap
    Julle ouens moet net hou jou bek
    en gooi hulle daardie membership tjek.

    Kies jou kant en vak
    Is dit NIEKAKSE of die ander brak
    Ek se, Shreq gaan vrek.

  15. What a load of SH ONE T to say the least. I am going to sit back and watch this unfold coz I aint spending a cent on registration I will use my money to study further, Education is KEY here not some registration. Knowledge is power. BOOOOOOO to registration.

  16. Yes Craig, knowledge is power, and we know a lot already, but we keep digging and the more we dig, the more we find, until the DOL will stand with mud in their faces.

    Shame man, it was a hard choice – IOSM or SACPMCP, and rather support a government institution than a body with no members of colour.

    But shyte, it was such a desperate attempt the keep IoSM out, they forgot to ask what we think of the matter. IoSM, told the DOL they have member support. But now, their members (being white) are soon to find them not getting registered as they do not meet the quota for demographic representation.
    Not playing the race card here, but they sure will. I can feel it coming. See below:

    You searched for:
    All Records
    Who match ANY of the following Member Types ‘Construction Health & Safety Officer’
    In the Group ‘Application Status: Registered Person’
    Ayanda E. Blose
    South Africa
    Provinces: Mpumalanga
    Nzaliseko Boyce
    Cape Town
    Provinces: Western Cape
    Matodzi Mulaudzi
    South Africa
    Provinces: Mpumalanga
    Peter Olisa
    South Africa
    Provinces: Gauteng
    Christiaan M. Olivier
    South Africa
    Provinces: Gauteng
    Muzi J. Sindane
    South Africa
    Provinces: Limpopo
    Page 1 of 1
    Only one white person out of 6

  17. Wonder who is registered under number CHSO/006/xxxx?
    Are they skipping numbers to create the impression there are “many”?

  18. As a member of Joe public I think registration is just a way of making money. How does is help the us the public?
    Our entire office roof collapsed in Nov 2014 – could have killed us. Fortunately nobody injured as it was late on a Friday evening. But we seem to have no recourse against the owners of the building.who leased the space to us – we lost everything and as a small private company this is devastating.
    Can anybody advise who we should report this to as we feel the building is still not safe. We are being denied engineering reports as to what caused the collapse etc. What channels do we approach for assistance and to force these premises to be inspected?

    [Editor notes; First move your people out of harm’s way.
    Here are the Department of Labour telephone numbers. You should also call your lawyer, the municipal building inspector, and the fire department;

    DOL provincial and regional offices

    Eastern Cape; East London 043 701 3000
    Free State; Bloemfontein 051 505 6200
    Gauteng North; Pretoria 012 309 5000
    Gauteng South; Johannesburg 011 497 3222
    KwaZulu-Natal; Durban 031 336 2000
    Limpopo; Polokwane 015 290 1744
    Mpumalanga; Witbank 013 655 8700
    North West; Mafikeng 018 387 1800
    Northern Cape; Kimberley 053 838 1500
    Western Cape; Cape Town 021 441 8000

    DOL Labour Centres in Eastern Cape

    Aliwal North 051 633 2633
    Butterworth 047 491 0490
    Cradock 048 881 3010
    East London 043 702 7500
    Fort Beaufort 046 645 4686
    Graaf-Reinet 049 892 2142
    Grahamstown 046 622 2104
    King William’s Town 043 642 3401
    Lusikisiki 039 253 1996
    Maclear 045 932 1424
    Mdantsane 043 761 3151
    Port Elizabeth 041 506 5000
    Queenstown 045 807 5400
    Uitenhage 041 992 4627
    Umtata 047 501 5600

    DOL Labour Centres in Free State

    Bethlehem 058 303 5293
    Bloemfontein 051 505 6200
    Ficksburg 051 933 2299
    Harrismith 058 623 2977
    Kroonstad 056 215 1812
    Parys 056 811 3043
    Petrusburg 053 574 0932
    Phuthaditjhaba 058 713 0373
    Sasolburg 016 970 3200
    Thaba Nchu 051 873 2004
    Welkom 057 391 0200
    Zastron 051 673 1471

    DOL Labour Centres in Gauteng North

    Atteridgeville 012 386 5116
    Bronkhorstspruit 013 932 0197
    Garankuwa 012 702 4525
    Krugersdorp 011 955 4420
    Mamelodi 012 805 5090
    Pretoria 012 309 5050
    Randfontein 011 693 3618
    Soshanguve 012 799 7395
    Temba 012 717 9500

    DOL Labour Centres in Gauteng South
    Alberton 011 861 6130
    Benoni 011 747 9601
    Boksburg 011 898 3340
    Brakpan 011 744 9000
    Carletonville 018 788 3281
    Germiston 011 345 6300
    Johannesburg 011 497 3163
    Kempton Park 011 975 9301
    Nigel 011 814 7095
    Randburg 011 781 8144
    Roodepoort 011 766 2000
    Sandton 011 444 7631
    Sebokeng 016 988 2626
    Soweto 011 939 1200
    Springs 011 362 6636
    Vanderbijlpark 016 981 0280
    Vereeniging 016 430 0000

    DOL Labour Centres in KwaZulu-Natal

    Dundee 034 212 3147
    Durban 031 336 1500
    Estcourt 036 352 2161
    Kokstad 039 727 2140
    Ladysmith 036 637 3461
    Newcastle 034 312 6038
    Pietermaritzburg 033 342 9361
    Pinetown 031 700 2206
    Port Shepstone 039 682 2406
    Prospecton 031 902 1590
    Richards Bay 035 789 3760
    Richmond 033 212 2768
    Stanger 032 551 4291
    Ulundi 035 879 1439
    Verulam 032 533 5050
    Vryheid 034 980 8992

    DOL Labour Centres in Limpopo

    Giyani 015 812 9041
    Lebowakgomo 015 633 6958
    Lephalale 014 763 2162
    Makhado 015 516 0207
    Modimolle 014 717 1046
    Mokopani 015 491 5973
    Phalaborwa 015 781 5114
    Polokwane 015 299 5000
    Seshego 015 223 7020
    Thohoyandou 015 960 1300
    Tzaneen 015 306 2600

    DOL Labour Centres in Mpumalanga

    Baberton 031 712 306_
    Bethal 017 647 2383
    Carolina 017 843 1077
    Ermelo 017 819 7632
    Evander 017 632 2295
    Groblersdal 013 262 3150
    Kwamhlanga 013 947 3173
    Lydenburg 013 235 2368
    Middelburg 013 283 3600
    Nelspruit 013 753 2844
    Nhlazatshe 017 883 2414
    Piet Retief 017 826 1883
    Sabie 013 764 2105
    Secunda 017 631 2585
    Standerton 017 712 1351
    Volksrust 017 735 2994

    DOL Labour Centres in Northern Cape

    Calvinia 027 341 1523
    De Aar 053 631 0952
    Kimberley 053 838 1500
    Kuruman 053 712 3952
    Postmasburg 053 313 0641
    Springbok 027 718 1058
    Upington 054 331 1752

    DOL Labour Centres in North West

    Brits 012 252 3068
    Christiana 053 441 2120
    Klerksdorp 018 464 8700
    Lichtenburg 018 632 4323
    Mafikeng 018 _81 1010
    Mogwase 014 555 5693
    Potchefstroom 018 297 5100
    Rustenburg 014 592 8214
    Taung 053 994 1679
    Vryburg 053 927 5221

    DOL Labour Centres in Western Cape

    Beaufort West 023 414 3427
    Bellville 021 941 7000
    Cape Town 021 460 5911
    Claremont 021 683 2388
    George 044 801 1201
    Knysna 044 382 3150
    Mitchell’s Plain 021 376 1771
    Mossel Bay 044 691 1140
    Oudtshoorn 044 272 4370
    Paarl 021 872 2020
    Somerset West 021 852 2535
    Vredenburg 022 715 1627
    Worcester 023 347 0152

  19. Louise
    Personally, I would do as the editor suggested. However, I would also publish the name of the building and its owner. If memory serves me, there was a collapse of a mezzanine floor as people were changing shifts….in PE I recall.
    There was also a state-owned building that collapsed but it received very little media attention, so probably nothing was done by the DOL, as they only respond to media pressure when it comes to accidents – the rest are written off as “Fault of Injured Person”.

  20. Infrastructure from the pre ’94 era is still being used today.
    The experience I’ve had is that there is a hesitation by the younger engineers to step forward and specify/design/calculate/engineer, they seem happier to just copy paste.
    Where this comes undone is where the items are no longer manufactured and they have to apply themselves.
    On the other side of the coin, our government/municipal buildings are looking good.

  21. You might also find that the younger generation has academic qualifications in engineering and not technical. Pre 94, you had Technikons offering engineering diplomas. This involved a lot of practical time in the field. Today, they all go to Universities and do the B.Sc engineering, with very little practical exposure. This create a lack of confidence to put a signature on a design. Also, because of the cost cutting in construction, most consulting engineering firms employ Engineering technicians, rather than Registered Engineers – and the same is to happen with the Pr.CHSA and the CHSO. The one will employ the other and no improvement in building standards. It is totally legal, as the PCMP Act allows for it. Just one more reason why this whole registration scam will fail, and many people will be added to the top 10% of SA’s wealthiest. Sadly though, it won’t be those who paid for the registration.

  22. Actually Donovan…according to FEM stats for 2014 11.64% of accidents are caused by MISC. AGENCIES, NEC (Not elsewhere classified), which means “We have no idea”.
    “Fault of injured person” would also fit in here. MISC. AGENCIES, NEC is the number one cause of Accidents for 2014
    The Top 5 causes are:

  23. OKAY!! That is why they blame the H&S Fraternity!! Because they have no idea, so it must be the safety guy’s fault.

  24. Yes, but remember, once they have taken the money from us, we will be competent and they will still have no idea. It is like the fat woman who told CJ Langenhoven he is drunk! He retorted: Yes, but tomorrow I will be sober, and you will still be fat!

  25. Hi, I have known Jeremy Rundle for a number of years, from the time that he was starting his MSc, and him working in the petrochemical field for many years.

    [This comment is edited in response to retraction of the previous comment. -Editor]

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